Boeing 737! MAX is BACK! Re-certification and understanding MCAS! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and followers, welcome back to my channel!
In today's video we'll be looking at the famous Boeing 737 MAX. What caused the grounding of this plane? What did Boeing do to get her certified? I'll give you a better understanding of the MCAS system. The easiest explanation on how the system works by using a bicycle! I'll briefly mention the Angle of Attack vane that caused the problems with the MCAS! Is it safe to fly this beautiful airplane again?
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
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Dear friends and followers, welcome back to my channel!
In today's video we'll be looking at the famous Boeing 737 MAX. What caused the grounding of this plane? What did Boeing do to get her certified? I'll give you a better understanding of the MCAS system. The easiest explanation on how the system works by using a bicycle! I'll briefly mention the Angle of Attack vane that caused the problems with the MCAS! Is it safe to fly this beautiful airplane again?
Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this video!
Wishing you all the best!
Your "Captain" Joe
Big thank you to all other youtubers who provided me with the video material to create this video. Your content is highly appreciated. Please follow their channels:
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Another brilliant video Joe, that last 90 seconds were so powerful and true, respect!
@RadhaKrishnan Nair they should be retired a moment too soon
@Spare2 Count aerodynamic theory says so when with full power , means nose goes up especially climb . Situation goes to supper stall within few secondsif not corrected automatically go beyond imagination. That is why... Redesign MCAS with failsafe concept introduce, automatically happen., No need of simulator training for pilots let captain fly with smile on face..
@Sebastian Floyd redesign of MCAS with failsafe concept introduce aircraft is perfect.. As of now Boeing/ FAA release not safe enough . They falled infront of Airbus & high tech. Max is there baby up to them about safety.
What about good training? I'm not trying to excuse Boeing here, but I think we all know that those lifes would be saved with pilots that had good training. I think it's wrong to ignore it.
PROSPERITY BONANZA HONESTY
I put a lot of the problems down to the MBA courses. People thinking they can manage a business just on the balance sheet. You can't any more than you can drive a car just on the ignition switch.
maximize shareholder value.... the same thing is killing the safety of the railroads in the US with their PRS and push for single person crews...
NEW ENGINE OPTION
Someday Star Trek-style teletransporters will make all of this seem quite primitive.
0:25 i thought it was gonna stall out
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Excellent video!
So, does MCAS still have the capability to override pilot control?
737 MAX is fine. it's just not for dumb pilots.
Airbus NEO stands for New Engine Option
Boeing’s process with redesigning the most popular plane ever:: 1) Airlines want a new efficient plane fast without pilot training 2) Put bigger engines on 737 3) Oh they don’t fit? Mount them more forward 4) Oh the more powerful engines mounted forward creates too much pitch? Add new software to auto correct 5) Oh the software needs pitch sensors? Add sensors 6) Oh the sensors and software could fail? Add off switch 7) Oh we didn’t train the pilots about the off switch? Add budget to pay for lawsuits and fines for crashes
Uh" no thanks " max
Money, money, money is all that is counting for Boeing and FAA supports them!
The bottom line is the 737 is now in the fighter aircraft category, aka it's inherently unstable...... and no amount of gizmo's & software is going to change that. If they want to do what's right for the public..... reintroduce the 727 "whisper jet" less the 3rd hole with the new engines. The morale of this story is Boeing hasn't learned a damn thing, including the FAA.
The 737 MAX is stable, that's a proven fact. The media might say something else, but what do they know.
Is that halo music?
Still wont fly boeing built. I dont trust them any further than I can throw them. Just another soul less company in it only to make the big bucks for the big bosses and stockholders. (Who probably fly in their own LEAR OR CESSNA business jets.)
The ONLY company in aviation that makes planes that don't spontaneously fall from the sky is Embraer, and the ERJ's have by far to date THE SAFEST service record of any jet in the sky! There's just one, teeny, tiny, itsy-bitsy, wiiddle problem... they're a region jet manufacturer. . .
Boeing has always and will continue to get billions of our tax dollars every year to kill people overseas. Nothing new to see here
Airbus planes are more comfortable to ride in
No matter what improvements Boeing makes, the fact remains this design is inherently flawed. I will not get on one of these planes. Corporate greed on full display here.
so we still get same "out of the balance" plane/engine design - which defies flight physics. but we do have a new software. and pilot needs to be trained to fight against mistakes that software makes. amazing, seems like logical and non-profit decision once again.
The plane is not out of balance, it flies using the same flight physics as other airliners. CG before CP, stabilizer counters it and can be trimmed. If it defied flight physics it couldn't fly at all. Otherwise I'd love to have such kind of software for my car to fly out of traffic jams, as my car physically cannot fly.
I have enjoyed air travel for more than 60+ years; much of it on Boeing aircraft and never had any concerns. The MAX fiasco has left me with a sour taste not with the professionalism of aircrews; but with the professionalism of the top echelon management board; and will never travel on a "MAX" even if it has been re-certified. Thank you for this clear and concise explanation and what has been done to resolve the issue; although it will never change my mind with respect to this aircraft type and those behind it.
As always an excellent video and outstanding explanation! Thank you so much!
I still wont ever fly Boeing agin the CEO showed no remorse for loss of life when it happened saying it was the pilots fault. Trash can of a company.
GREAT! When is Microsoft going to put it in the new Flight Simulator already?
Great Video CJ..!
Another great video. I am sad about what went wrong at Boeing too. You did an excellent job of summing up corporate greed and I could not have done a better job.
I've known this and basically its been a shit design from day one! Boeing in the greety wisdom pushed this thing out the door not giving a **** for human lives! Yeah..lets just alter the areo dynamics of the wing and put a bandaid over the real issue which was a crap design! Would have cut into thier profits if they would have designed it with a taller landing gear so that they could have THEN put the bigger engine under! Jack Wagons!!
Nice to see a WestJet Max in the video
6:37 we actually barely tap the rear brake..😁
Boeing Killed Bombardier by extension the Canadian aviation industry... ... shedding no tears for Boeing....
MCAS --> May Crash Any Second. No thank you Boeing, piss off..
Sorry but Boeing can fail tomorrow morning and all the management involved in the death of more than 300 people can simply rot in hell..
Really good video. Excellent clear explanation of a complex situation. Thanks.
The flying coffin is back to suck more blood.
Could be worse, could be the Comet or the dassault jet; both of those jets just deleted themselves and the passengers from the sky merely by flying...
No
I'm confused, if the engines(weight) on the max were moved forward why on the bicycle the weight was moved to the back. Is this comparison correct?
No, the comparison shown is not correct. You are right, a weight moved more forward shifts the CG more forward. This can also be seen on any loadsheet form (though less common nowadays due to computerized loadsheets, but they are still used when necessary). As any kind of front/back loading (pax, baggage, fuel) shifts the CG more than those engines, the 737 MAX doesn't even have a CG issue at all.
It's sad to see a company taking shortcuts for profit, and putting people second. Great video.
Boeing did not lose $80 billion due to 737 Max, not even close. Even including suffering from Covid, their 2020 net loss was less than $13 billion, and most of that was due to the pandemic. Also, profits aren't bad, and "corporate greed" is not a "relentless war". Lying and cheating is wrong, but earning a profit is the job the managers were hired to do. Stick to talking about flight, and keep out the subjects of which you're ignorant. Like everything besides flight.
I feel your bicycle comparison confuses center of gravity, center of pressure, and center of rotation. Probably easier to just consider the actual airplane and the forces acting upon it.
The 737 Max is not the least-flown plane in the world.
Great work Capt. American pride... becomes a problem when it's challenged. Here u see how mad this unbelievable thing can become. Hope some big guys learn from this hit.
Anytime an automatic system like that has to be overidden, an error should be logged and the aircraft sent to inspection
Anyway holy cow that is incredible with .mcas and pilots not trained on that
I want to fly on airplane haven't flown in 20 years I think I will I go book a airplane trip from ca to ny I'm tired of highway
I think, You forgot to mention that this system was also done in this way, since pilots would only need a quick tutorial (which was still not sufficient) on the ipad instead of a recertification...could be i missed this
Back for murder
Thank you for a great discussion on the issues with the Boeing 737 Max. I also appreciate your decision not to review air crashes.
We're ALL to blame we want more for our shares every year
Many pilots couldn't have traning because they needed _flight simulators_ They instead used iPads OMG
Well done BOEING welcome back Maxi ... great positive news
Infamous*
I learned so much with this video!
The relationship between the FAA and several companies that build planes in the US has been described as "too friendly". Meanwhile, EASA be like "Hmm...screwdriver left after maintenance...inspection failed"
Interesting that Boeing is contracting a large number of experienced 737 drivers to "assist" some of the customers in their pilot training programs for the Max. These guys are going to be riding around in jump seats of airlines such as Lion and Ethiopian for the next few years.
737 max down because of “Greed”
I wondered if you'd include the 'corporate greed' phrase, and you did, good. A good reputation is slow to be established, but so quickly lost For those of us not so familiar, did the A320 NEO merit a whole new type rating, and pilot training? over its predecessor
Neo (efficiency
Came here for the comments. Was not disappointed.
Nice video. For me boing is now a company for which safety isn't first. It is profit first. Such companny shall be newer trusted again. It is OK if a company do a mistake, it is not ideal, but it's unavoiable. What is not aceplatble if the mistake is a result of economical decisions, because in that case it is a calculated decision that the human lives are less valuable as the economical benefits. Such decision can actualy force also other companies to do same cuts to stay competitive, which means, that boing is actualy reducing the importance of safety for the whole insutry by this. I do belive that MAX is safe now, but I do not belive that boing as a company shall be trusted. We do not know how many other mistakes has been done becouse of the filosofy money first, safety may be later. Which wa demonstated by the whole MAX case.
I won’t be getting on it anytime soon
Nice video by Joe
What a turn of events with Coronavirus.
Great video @captainjoe! I totally agree on the corporate greed explanation, we simply can’t have this in the aviation world. Though the Max is recertified I’d never fly it. It’s one thing to convince the aviation geeks but it’s another to convince the public. The Max will forever be a symbol of greed and disrespect for human lives. Have a great day!
I'm never getting on one
As it grows old it will develop problems with the engine mount?! 🤔
New Engine Option
New engine option right? Not sure
The Flying ⚰️
My respect for Airbus just keeps growing over the years.
Something is deleting my comments here - MAX will never be safe and MCAS was the biggest mistake of Boeing company. Managers of that company should burn in hell.
Gotta remember "McDonald Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing's pocket book" These guys aren't "Boeing", they're McDonald Douglas... with a Boeing skinsuit vacuumed on really tight.
NEO= new engine option
The US would be boycotting if Airbus had this controversy. Is the regulator regulating or are they in the pockets of Boeing and other interested parties?
And nobody went to jail.... Hm..
The elated female specifically doubt because estimate predictably blush besides a highfalutin magician. flaky, selective cough
New Engine Option - NEO
THERE CANT BE MUCH PLANE BACK BECOSE THERE ARE ONLY 3 737 MAX SIMULATORS AT A COST OF 15 MILLION $ EACH IN THE WORLD AND THOUSANDS OF PILOTS TO BE TRAINED
neo = new engine option bc they have bigger engines
Feels like it is still risky with the 'fix'. With AoA sensor or MCAS hardware having issue what will happen then, if pilots can't override it.
Pilots can override it. Always could (at least directly, but now they can also override the effects of it indirectly by pulling the yoke alone).
Flew on this plane twice last week. Little nerve racking to say the least
@14:12 you missed on mentioning the corporate people who make the decisions that tell engineers what to do and the sales people to sell them.
Java sea or Djava sea?
Excellent report I would add a third group for greed: everyday investors stock market who put their money in w highest returns creating a subgoal IOW putting a motivation in the market for highest returns cutting cost .. in this case training
When profits become more important that lives, the very lives you depend on to fill your planes it poses some very serious ethical questions. Great video Joe.
No way in hell i am flying on the 737 Max...its a coffin ready to fly you straight to your grave.
Does anyone know if they added redundancy on the AOA vein? As an Engineer I was upset that they had such an important sensor and no redundancy on it. The aviation rule I heard was: One of something is none, Two of something is One. Only three gives you true redundancy. I'm sure they fixed the software. I want to know if they made it so this can't happen again by tripling up on the AOA.
MCAS uses the inputs of both AoA sensor now. Two is all it's got, just like virtually any other conventional plane as well. Both AoA sensors need to agree in order to trigger MCAS (plus some other requirements), otherwise MCAS will be inhibited.
@ 4:59 is a video clip from one of my videos...very interesting :) !!!!
Bottom line is the 737 Max is UNSAFE.
I can’t believe Boeing didn’t have that vital detail in the training guide!!!!!!! Omg!!!! So preventable
What I’m worried most now is that because of corona and the airlines suffering financially, that airlines won’t retire old planes that need to be retired or doesn’t do safety checks as thoroughly (because everything costs money, staff to pay and train, cost of replacing parts, etc) and the possible consequences from that (engine failure that recently happened, etc)
Yes do not cut corners. Safety first. Most important to CUSTOMER
Volkswagen cheated on the emission numbers, of their engines. Gets fined for 21 Billion Dollars. Boeing kills 190 people, lies about it and kills another 170. Gets a 2,5 Billion Dollar fine. Corrupt US justice system.
Boeing is a joke, those owners and ceo all should be in jail. Those planes are all junk, time and time again they crash, parts are used, cheap laborers old planes worst engines in the industry. People better wake up and use another plane unless your looking to die flying boeing planes,
Seems like sheer stupidity on behalf of Boeing, don't know what they were thinking! Incidentally, the Ethiopian crash was not as simple as the pilots just not 'knowing' they could override MCAS, They apparently did disable it but were unable to regain control.
I don't want even my mail travelling with this death trap.
The biggest fault: the MCAS software did not bother to read out both AOA sensors and used the data from one, and thus could not detect a sensor malfunction. This is really not excusable at all. Terrible design. Not using available redundant systems in a system the overwrites pilot input.
No thanks. Whatever Boeing say or do. Their attempt to evade responsibility for the two crashes indicates a criminal attitude to safety that will permeate the whole corporation. It will take decades of safe Boeing miles before I get on one again. These guys like to cut corners. You can't afford to ever do that in the flying business. Boeing has lost all credibility across the world of frequent flyers. You just can't trust them anymore. Sorry, it's Airbus only, for me now.
With Boeing now having issues with the 777 Pratt & Whitney engines. Things aren't looking that great for Boeing right now. Granted the 777 also uses GE engines but still who saw this coming. Just another blow for the company. And as far as the MAX's are concerned i think it's just a matter of time before something else happens. I won't fly on one that's for damn sure. And airlines like Southwest who 90% exclusively use 737's should have thought about another option to replace there aging fleet of older generation 737's. And that replacement could have come in the form of the Airbus A220-300 and absolutely FANTASTIC modern aircraft. Between the Airbus A320-NEO and the A220-200 & 300 variants. It seems too me that things are only getting better for Airbus and horrible for Boeing.
I keep hearing people scared of Boeing737 Max, but in reality, it was the greed done by Boeing and FAA as a whole.
Kudos for using the words "Corporate Greed" It is the root of most evil. Great video!