Tesla's Battery Supply Problem
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[1] www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-vehicle-deliveries/
[2] www.statista.com/statistics/265859/vehicle-sales-worldwide/
[3] arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1210/1210.3672.pdf
[4] www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369702114004118#fig0035
[5] courses.lumenlearning.com/geology/chapter/reading-abundance-of-elements-in-earths-crust/
[6] Page 16 publications.lib.chalmers.se/records/fulltext/230991/local_230991.pdf and www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_content_of_pure_lithium_eg_kg_kWh_in_Li-ion_batteries_used_in_electric_vehicles
[7] pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2020/mcs2020-lithium.pdf
[8]Page 51 pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2020/mcs2020.pdf
[9] www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/16/apple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths
[10] www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/about/legal/2018-conflict-minerals-report.pdf
[11] www.benchmarkminerals.com/panasonic-reduces-teslas-cobalt-consumption-by-60-in-6-years/
[12] Page 9 www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Industries/Metals%20and%20Mining/Our%20Insights/The%20future%20of%20nickel%20A%20class%20act/The%20future%20of%20nickel%20A%20class%20act.ashx#:~:text=For%20nickel%2Dcontaining%20lithium%2Dion,%2C%20NMC811%2C%20or%20NCA
[13] Page 113 pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2020/mcs2020.pdf
[14] insg.org/index.php/about-nickel/production-usage/
[15] www.mining.com/web/elon-musk-is-going-to-have-a-hard-time-finding-clean-nickel/
[16] www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/arizona-battery-explosion-conventional-wisdom-safety
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  • Real Engineering
    Real Engineering

    When you are done here, Real Science just uploaded a fascinating video about methods being developed to transform any blood into the universal O type blood. irbin.info/loft/fy-lm-h-y/aL5roXWqtKyIkJ0.html

    • boi jone
      boi jone

      ...so make a standard battery that can just be unplugged from a phone and put it into a array of them in a car?

    • Tommy
      Tommy

      Fake engineering talk shit about Tesla lol stupidity

    • Dave Froman
      Dave Froman

      @Emmerich August think again. irbin.info/loft/fy-lm-h-y/ZM6hcmqtsW13k50.html

    • Emmerich August
      Emmerich August

      Seem like we have a clear winner! Gas cars 😜

    • James Leather
      James Leather

      Can you please do the economics of a hyperloop system in Europe or the US! :)

  • İslam Aydoğmuş
    İslam Aydoğmuş

    Oil companies disliked this video

  • Tyler Cherry
    Tyler Cherry

    All I'm saying is that if your a giant and cocaine addict... 11:46

  • Jerry Lifsey
    Jerry Lifsey

    Should gov'ts stop using Nickel in their coins?

  • Jerry Lifsey
    Jerry Lifsey

    If Lithium is in Chile's saltflats, is Lithium in Bonneville's saltflats?

  • Omar Aqq
    Omar Aqq

    I think its time we re-engineer the battery

  • Cookie Monster
    Cookie Monster

    Thank you thank you thank you for sourcing your content. It's greatly appreciated and it also ups your credibility by a lot.

  • whatisbestinlife
    whatisbestinlife

    What nation is Tesla encouraging the US to coup now to get their hands on the natural resources cheaper.

  • Dillon Vossen
    Dillon Vossen

    destabilize the "DRC"

  • Hügo Krüger
    Hügo Krüger

    Recycling is nonsense, just incinerate the waste

  • Mike Star
    Mike Star

    I'm an electrical engineer that's works in the energy industry and energy storage is one of the most pressing issues in the field at this time. I design high voltage substations. We are constantly looking at new and different methods of finding sufficient way to store energy for the grid.

  • Valentin Arzola
    Valentin Arzola

    How does hydrogen fuel Cell compete in energy storage.

  • MrDosonhai
    MrDosonhai

    Something tells me Australia will benefit greatly in the next few decades as they are and will be the only stable region in the world that could supply most of the resources needed for the next technological revolution.

  • Armand De Maupertuis
    Armand De Maupertuis

    Just cut the human population on Earth by 99%. All problems solved...

  • Riaz
    Riaz

    Another reason why the solution to cars isn't only batteries, but hydrogen as well.

  • Tricky Dicky
    Tricky Dicky

    what no lithium does to a mf

  • Belinda a
    Belinda a

    Seems to me that Tesla needing more factories/output and a great deal of the RM they need for batteries being in Australia should result in them investing in a company in Australia! They helped Aus with the battery storage solution for South Australia so I know the Govt would do them some favours.

  • jacktheninja
    jacktheninja

    3:08 is it me or is this showing conventional flow instead

  • Pieh0
    Pieh0

    5:39 Oooo, the forbidden Capri Sun!

  • İslam Aydoğmuş
    İslam Aydoğmuş

    I wonder whats the point of "monster trucks" like do they have ANY practical uses?

  • Chris Bondoc
    Chris Bondoc

    Can you do a real engineering video on the distribution and cold storage of pfizer’s vaccines at -94 deg F? Like it’s feasibility/amount of energy required

  • Reza Mottaghi
    Reza Mottaghi

    I'm really interested about brilliant because of your channel...too bad where I live average monthly income is 160$ 🤦‍♂️

  • Lics Norgi
    Lics Norgi

    lame car

  • nikosdok
    nikosdok

    24 minutes video to say this? Speechifying

  • jaquesaulait
    jaquesaulait

    Interesting presentation. (Fewer factories)

  • Anna Krichevsky
    Anna Krichevsky

    It is amazing how this video danced around Lithium Iron Phosphate chemistry which has no supply constraints whatsoever (other than that of Lithium itself which is pretty soft), has the longest cycle life of all, is safe (not igniting even if punctured), and non-toxic. Oh, on top of that it provides more stable voltage than other chemistries, and thus requires far less sophisticated charging control circuitry if any. The energy density is lower than others, but sufficient even for vehicle use (used in Teslas), and definitely for stationary energy storage. Arizona battery farm disaster is absolutely irrelevant if LFP batteries are used, and they will be according to Tesla plan revealed on Battery Day.

  • Doclabkr Suzanne
    Doclabkr Suzanne

    Im back from stalking anime waifus

  • Dr Frost
    Dr Frost

    🤣 They don't gaf where their power comes from

  • penua
    penua

    U just talk too much Just say what's need to be said dont beat around the bush

  • Seeker_Of_Knowledge
    Seeker_Of_Knowledge

    Redwood based in California is a Lithium battery recycler,

  • Pierfrancesco Poniz
    Pierfrancesco Poniz

    irbin.info/loft/fy-lm-h-y/mL2Jo2u-qXycqmY.html

  • Mason Rawson
    Mason Rawson

    Love your channel man! Would love a video on liquid air batteries! Saw this video of it on "Just have a think" irbin.info/loft/fy-lm-h-y/pLN-pWyp17Bu3Hs.html

  • PongoXBongo
    PongoXBongo

    Couldn't the tech giants build large, modern mining facilities in the DRC and give the people there better working conditions as employees? I get that it would decrease profits and, as such, likely never be done. But, it IS an option to stay true to corporate mantras and avoid negative press.

  • Annas Krisna Bachtiar
    Annas Krisna Bachtiar

    i think we're too happy with gas in the late 50 years, that's why we late with energy storage technology. many electric car were made in that year but no good response at all but for now we have a new scientist businessman that can boost energy storage technology until it limit and make a new segment that make big company cant overlook at it. i think we just hit 3 from 10 point in energy storage technology and hopefully no greedy oil businessman involved even though that was impossible

  • Tandem Charge
    Tandem Charge

    [Insert the mundane usual African Children mining here without knowing the true complex political scope of the entire thing and downplays it into "Elemtric Vehimcle baaad reeee"]

  • madrx2
    madrx2

    Electric cars are good for the environment.....yeh right .

  • scottmuck
    scottmuck

    The lithium "reserves" shown on the USGS page aren't some stockpile being held back to support the price... it's the estimate of the total (currently know and identified / "proven") lithium available to be mined in those countries.

  • BinaryGenius
    BinaryGenius

    HI i don`t know this guy Behind Designs at all but you all need to see him because he is doing great work and deserves a boost irbin.info/both/maVh_jb3Z2Wnt1PZ23e1ww sorry if this is bad form but im sure you will like his content also

  • John Condon
    John Condon

    The anode is positive? Crumbs

  • Jab
    Jab

    24 years of Lithium supply is nothing. There might as well be no Lithium at all. Lithium batteries aren't a solution.

  • Gostandinos Theodossiou
    Gostandinos Theodossiou

    Great more short waves give us all cancer from emf generated motors.

  • Ante Plus
    Ante Plus

    WHY are you using mAH as a unit and ignoring the better one watt/hour ....mith using mAh we dont know on what voltage is beeing delivered..can somebody skilled answer me please

  • Sourav Nandi
    Sourav Nandi

    Can you make a video on transformers and how they work... Not Micheal Bay's...

  • Jordan Evans
    Jordan Evans

    Cathode is negative

  • William Goode
    William Goode

    22:00 Why not lead acid batteries, they would scale up and there's going to be masses of lead left over from the legacy cars being crushed, so we could use lead acid for grid storage !

  • William Goode
    William Goode

    17:30 Its not pure like lead, so too mixed to recycle

  • William Goode
    William Goode

    15:50 Is this thus the Indonesia plant purchase

  • Sam Bradley
    Sam Bradley

    Comment for algorithm

  • SteveAkaGoatpile
    SteveAkaGoatpile

    Grid energy storage is dead simple really. underground Air pressure Storage alone is stupid simple in concept, but no-one seems willing to test or implement it.

  • aresmars2003
    aresmars2003

    Elon is getting a little chubby, perhaps could benefit by a better sleeping schedule and daily exercise! If he goes to Mars he'll need exercise just to keep his bones from weakening!

  • Darin Herrick
    Darin Herrick

    What this is telling me is that the people yelling about Lithium Mining can rest easy. Battery recycling is coming sooner than you think.

  • Kevin Original
    Kevin Original

    3:40 Just semantics but you described charging as supplying the opposite voltage to the battery as if you would swap positive and negative or something. Even though the current flow is reversed, the polarity remains the same. Depending on charging or discharging, the voltage would either be higher or lower than the battery voltage, just not negative.

  • john evans
    john evans

    Excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • Fionn Daly
    Fionn Daly

    Relying on batteries to solve climate change is such an inefficient and backwards idea. The amount of carbon required to dig up the resources required is not sustainable. Subways, trams, metros and light rail powered directly by electricity is the obvious and efficient solution, but there's not profit to be made there so it's not presented as a solution.

  • dell
    dell

    3:49 'lodge themselves back in the cathode once again' you mean in the anode as is shown in the animation or is the animation wrong?

  • Joy L
    Joy L

    "Tayota"?

    • Ciaran Claffey
      Ciaran Claffey

      Chilae

  • steven tran
    steven tran

    There are cobalt, nickel, and manganese rich nodules at the bottom of the ocean. It requires no children to harvest. Not a lot of people are using these. There are nodule zones around the world and you don’t need to dredge the floor as these nodules just lay on the ocean floor ready to be harvested.

  • Susannezb Nicholstsj
    Susannezb Nicholstsj

    Can we take a second to appreciate the amount of effort he has stared to put it to his animation

  • Lance Dooley
    Lance Dooley

    When brainwashed engineers are morons about energy. Unless you are a Physicist please shut up. What they don't tell you about cost, energy density, and supplying power to a planet. - Dr. Willie Soon PhD Astrophysicist and Geoscience (The sun is responsible for changing climate, not co2) - Dr. Freeman Dyson PhD Astrophysics and Mathematics - Dr. Ivar Giaever PhD Physicist Nobel Laureate - Dr. Fred Singer PhD Atmospheric Physicist -Dr. Susan Crockford PhD in Zoology Ted Talk irbin.info/loft/fy-lm-h-y/fpOrcX-1qKmLl6k.html

    • remliqa
      remliqa

      Cherry picking a few controversial scientist while ignoring the thousands of other that disagree or debunked them isn't a conducive to finding out the truth.

  • 6eff
    6eff

    Story short - will humans dig fast enough to switch from one technology based on digging to another.

  • Liam Sweeney
    Liam Sweeney

    So to save the world, we have to ruin it first? Brilliant.

  • Faiz khairul anam
    Faiz khairul anam

    Siap siap aja nikel Indonesia jadi incaran😂

  • momo rama
    momo rama

    but I don't want to use battery cars

  • AS Gerner
    AS Gerner

    Me naively assuming the most abundant element in the crust is carbon: "Wait? It's all silicon?" Boring Company miner with SpaceX suit and handgun: "Always has been..."

  • José Federico Ramos Ortega
    José Federico Ramos Ortega

    This is a top tier information, content and presentation, good job!, a lot of things to think about this issues.

  • Ryan Soh
    Ryan Soh

    At least Elon is trying to do smth Still hasn't given me genetically engineered neko

  • Roberto Pinna
    Roberto Pinna

    So basically batteries are not the solution... Especially today's batteries

  • Nathaniel Hampton
    Nathaniel Hampton

    Hey can you do a video on pneumatic energy storage? Or air pressure energy storage? I’m not sure which it would be called. I’m sure the efficiency is terrible but less of a mining concern, plus over time I’m sure air pressure storage can gain a lot of efficiency, still probably not ever as efficient at a battery. But it’s gotta be super super clean, especially coupled with windmill, or solar panel provided energy. But I’ve heard of plans of storing a gigantic tank underground to store air. Also I think there was a company in India that made a full pneumatic vehicle but not very good range, I don’t know if they abandoned their plans. I’ve also heard as far as safety concerns they can use carbon fiber tanks instead of metal so it can crack instead of exploding. Either way it will for sure be the cleanest way of storage. Plus it would be nice to hear super high RPM air turbine engines in a vehicle in the future. If nobody else tries then I’ll do it someday in the future 😂

  • SuperSix Delta
    SuperSix Delta

    Who cares how we extract cobalt? All this hand wringing over conditions in some third world peon nation.

  • Assaf
    Assaf

    Maybe do a video on Amager Bakke? Supposed to be a super efficient waste to power and heat plant in Denmark.

  • Tarodenaro
    Tarodenaro

    Taiyo-ta

  • Sheriff of YouTube
    Sheriff of YouTube

    why am i watching UK youtube? wtf google

  • Randy Curry
    Randy Curry

    Simply avoiding cobalt doesn’t fix the problem in the DRC. Take a look at Daimler they have taken some bold and innovative steps such as helping launch local companies who follow The UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. The companies are frequently audited to ensure compliance. This helps improve the local circumstances snd strengthen their rights, which leads to long-term social change.

  • macher001
    macher001

    So the main take-away from this video: forget batteries, go hydrogen :-)

  • stochastic24
    stochastic24

    World's largest auto manufacturer is a small fish. Good video, well thought out and well researched. Edit: Lithium Ion in uncharged state? Okay I just can't.

  • pedro soares
    pedro soares

    I houve a doubt about something nothing to do with it. Does machining process changes the alloy properties??

  • Amelie Rogers
    Amelie Rogers

    Superb Energy 💪 shout out #MusicProducingBuildTrack

  • ME
    ME

    Why does DRC have such a concentration of Cobalt? Is it an old asteroid deposit?

  • ZO24
    ZO24

    Anybody else hear the phone ring?

  • useBrain
    useBrain

    8:35 you missed oxygen.

  • destiny gamer
    destiny gamer

    Plz do a vid on the ho 229

  • Kirk Tizon
    Kirk Tizon

    I would have been interested if he indicated the projected cost of making the batteries as it goes along the supply chain, and then compare it with the current diesel powered car market :)

  • Jimmy
    Jimmy

    @0:28 watching this reminded me the same problem i had when watching the live event, which is why energy went 5x but range only +16%? shouldn't they be increasing proportionally? anybody?

  • Iturbide
    Iturbide

    Artisanal mining = kids playing minecraft in cobalt mines in the Congo

  • Conrad Colon
    Conrad Colon

    Video Idea: they are building a nuclear fusion reactor in Boston... how is fusion different from fission and why has no one tried it before?

  • David Fernandez
    David Fernandez

    The American Greed New Deal radicals will be leading wars in these nations to control lithium and cobolt

  • Maisie Campbell
    Maisie Campbell

    Neat Stuff 🙏 check #MakeMoneyMusicProducing

  • A Mohamed Nazel
    A Mohamed Nazel

    this shows that most ppl don't care about the environment. If they are still buying fossil fuel based vehicles...like I said in many of my commentaries, the world is coming to an end..literally..may be 200 years before our earth becomes unlivable..

  • Cameo Six
    Cameo Six

    Solution: Under the sea Mr Krab: Ok I am going to charge double the amount. *"I love the smell of money"*

  • Zach Jones
    Zach Jones

    Military intervention in the DRC may be the best option in the long term. Europe abandoned Africa to rot during Decolonization.

  • Max T
    Max T

    Nuclear please

  • robert davis
    robert davis

    Start over ! The ocean is full of water Use water.... h2O, and a combination of other things, like wind turbines that will charge the car if the car is moving, so like air moving through a radiator. Use that air to turn wind turbines, and what happened to that tech. Where they used the rotating tires as turbine. Generators??? Do a combination of things to keep the batteries charged as it moves....so it recharges....as it uses... some engineer can figure out how much it uses. Then use wind and the tires turning generators to charge it the same amount it uses, come on ....give up the more battery power thing, and “we need more raw material “. Thing !! concentrate on how to charge as it’s being used..... capacitors, stepping up , or dwn voltages, to create more energy.... just an idea !!!

  • R FP
    R FP

    batteries are a horrible technology, the very amount of mining, extraction and manufacturing is NOT going to stop the Co2 polution that is needed, its actually going to INCREASE it for the amount they say we need. This is a total lie and a shame. What we need is nuclear fusion generation and all this shame money going into the lie that is Elon needs to start going into fusion energy asap!

  • mixedup84
    mixedup84

    It's always 5 years away

    • mixedup84
      mixedup84

      @Dirk Knight wut

  • Aaron Vallejo
    Aaron Vallejo

    At the Giga factory Nevada grand opening, they said they are designing their products for optimal and precise recycling in house. Essentially, they get all the precious and interesting metals back for essentially free, apart from the cost of transportation, to be re-manufactured into new batteries and products...all powered by renewably powered electricity. It definitely sounds like circular - waste equals food - everything is a nutrient industrial production. It definitely sounded like cradle-to-cradle production. It would be wonderful if all manufacturers could have more and more safe and healthy Cradle to Cradle Certified products to offer clients. A world without waste nor pollution; energy abundance. I was quite interested to hear that, in your opinion, lithium could be better used in vehicles rather than grid batteries. Interesting. It is pretty important to phase out industrial carbon emissions. Perhaps in a few years Tesla will use different chemistry for their grid batteries. I am hopeful, thankful even happy their Hornsdale Powerpack big grid battery powered by a large wind farm is operating brilliantly.

  • Jakob Winter
    Jakob Winter

    Another great video. I would love to see one on Organic Flow batteries - like the one being developed by the German company CMBlu. This technology almost seems to be too good to be true. No degradation, elegant scalability and lignin as a non-toxic main ingredient, that is an abundant waste product of the paper industry...

    • Jakob Winter
      Jakob Winter

      ​@Dirk Knight I get your cynicism about new battery technologies. Lots of claims out there, but little proof. Its just neither polite nor productive to dish out a blanket-statement like "none of those attributes are true". As to its commercialization: A first product on the market was tentatively planned by CMBlu for 2021. But I cannot find any recent anouncements. Another company - Jena Batteries - is currently running a 100 kW pilot plant in the netherlands - but no commercial product yet. So this technology is indeed not interesting to you for now.

    • Jakob Winter
      Jakob Winter

      ​@Dirk Knight Ok, why don't you try a conversation more like this: In a Redox Flow battery, the electrolyte is stored in big tanks. Its energy is released by running it through an energy converter stack. To increase power output, one simply has to add more converters. To increase storage capacity one just has to add another tank CMBlu state on their website about their organic electrolyte: "One possible source is lignin, approximately 20 billion tonnes of which are an annual byproduct of global pulp production and for which there have previously been no alternative uses." I remember the reading about those batteries having (almost) no degradation. But I wasn't able to find anything to back that up just now. So lets take that one off the list for now... ... See, that kind of conversation would be useful. Otherwise, you'll just be pushed into the troll-camp.

    • Jakob Winter
      Jakob Winter

      @Dirk Knight Well, you just state above that "none of those attributes are true", but offer no explanation as to why that is. Thats not very satisfying.

    • Jakob Winter
      Jakob Winter

      @Dirk Knight that's why I would like a video about this tech. To shed some more light on it

  • Großer Kurfurst
    Großer Kurfurst

    tesla is in indonesia now.... their new battery factory it is

  • Doug Hampton
    Doug Hampton

    Project azorian

  • jyuy d
    jyuy d

    Any resource problem: exist Every potential solution: Under the sea

  • I dance for pennies
    I dance for pennies

    I have watched three videos on liquid metal (actually a misnomer most of it is salt) mass storage batteries, and they blow current battery technology into the weeds in every metric that matters. Mainly cost and safety. Highly scalable too, actually the bigger they are the more efficient they get.

    • I dance for pennies
      I dance for pennies

      @Dirk Knight Several installations all ready up and running, and the main proponent is a hero of this channel owner. Clueless.